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Grace's avatar

From your post... this sentence was a slap in the face:

"When we see hugely disproportionate ratios, it’s a sign that there’s a fundamental unwillingness to see the other side as fully human. ...Hamas demands multiples of their own people released for every hostage they release."

...Perhaps you are unaware of the degree to which the Israeli gov't does not see Palestinans as humans. They are seen as animals... men, women and children alike... "Never again" means never againfor ANYone. Perhaps you will believe Human Rights Watch?

I grieve for the people of Gaza, but I also grieve for the people of Israel. The crimes that their gov't is committing, with our gov't's assistance, will no doubt come back to haunt them, and likely us, too. Enough already, of the violence perpetrated around the world by our military industrial complex.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29/why-does-israel-have-so-many-palestinians-detention-and-available-swap

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Marty Wilde's avatar

m sorry you see it as a slap in the face. The current Israeli government certainly has much to answer for, but I wanted to keep the comment to the prisoner ratios. We certainly see the lack of regard for civilian life on both sides, with Hamas deliberately killing Israeli civilians and the Israeli government accepting the deaths of something over 100 Palestinian civilian deaths for every hostage still held. Historically, Israel’s armed forces have an even stronger process for minimizing civilian casualties than the US. I expect that they will have a reckoning when the current regime ends. I certainly do not begrudge Israel their right to respond militarily to the slaughter of their civilians by Hamas, but they have the same obligation to abide by the principles of proportionality and discrimination that we do. And, as we have seen in this conflict, the only group that values Palestinian lives less than the current Israeli regime is Hamas.

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